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Testing Erying i7-12700H mini ITX motherboard

2023-10-27

Erying, a subsidiary of Qiangsheng Electronics, is a Chinese company offering custom motherboards, nettops, and laptops built on Intel mobile solutions. The company got some wider recognition after its motherboards with Intel 12th-gen mobile processors were reviewed by content creators. You can find their motherboards on for example Aliexpress.

Erying i7-12700H mini ITX motherboard

Few months ago I got one of their motherboards when there was a sale. Now the 12700H motherboard is priced at $367 and compared to my unit, it has a slightly different, uniform heat spreader.

Erying i7-12700H motherboard
Erying i7-12700H motherboard
Erying i7-12700H motherboard
Motherboard back I/O
SoC heatspreader
SoC heatspreader
12700H on the motherboard
12700H on the motherboard

Cooler compatibility

The motherboard is compatible with coolers for Intel modern motherboards, however, there are some caveats. Erying is using a custom heatspreader for the SoC which is held in place by a backplate which can interfere with some cooler backplates if they are more X-shaped rather than rings.

Second problem can be with the heat spreader - in my version, the surface is not even and has a taller central bar running across it. When I tried to mount Be quiet! Shadow Rock LP horizontal cooler I have to unscrew the heat spreader backplate and screw it back through Be Quiet backplate. Then when the radiator was mounted it was able to wobble back/forth and the mounting pressure was rather low.

The Current listing for this motherboard and customer review images on Aliexpress show it with a uniform heat spreader which should improve cooler compatibility. I used a simple tower cooler - Deepcool Gammaxx 300.

Be quiet! Shadow Rock LP
Be quiet! Shadow Rock LP
Be quiet! Shadow Rock LP radiator did not get good mounting pressure and could wobble due to uneven heatspreader design
Be quiet! Shadow Rock LP radiator did not get good mounting pressure and could wobble due to uneven heatspreader design
Deepcool Gammaxx 300
Simple Deepcool tower cooler was able to mount firmly onto this motherboard

Motherboard VRM thermal performance

mATX motherboards reviewed by content creators had one weak spot - VRM thermal throttling as Erying did not provide radiators nor a better power delivery design. The mini ITX version has a radiator, but it does not cover all power-deliver chips.

I tested the motherboard in an open test bench setup with a tower cooler so there wasn't any direct airflow directed at the motherboard VRM. From my Cinebench R23 testing and thermal imaging it seems like the VRM manages to handle the load but bearly with possible throttling depending on dGPU and case heat buildup.

With a dGPU present the system managed to reach a 14453 multi-core score in Cinebench R23 which is noticeably below the 15902 average on Notebookcheck. Without dGPU the score improved to 16766 which is even above the Notebookcheck median score for this benchmark.

Erying VRM thermal imaging
Erying VRM thermal imaging
Erying VRM thermal imaging
Erying VRM thermal imaging
Heatpipes doing their job
Heatpipes doing their job

If you intend to build an SFF system based on such a motherboard I would advise looking at some options to improve VRM cooling. This can be done by a side-mounted fan (few cases have such an option) blowing air directly over VRM and below a tower cooler exhaust. Another option would be a horizontal CPU cooler with a top-down fan orientation. If large enough it should generate enough airflow around the whole of the motherboard. Standard low-profile horizontal coolers also blow air to the sides but if they are small they may struggle with cooling the CPU and thus blowing very hot air over the motherboard won't cool it that much.

Tech YES City review covering VRM throttling
Horizontal top-down cooler should easily cool the CPU and VRM
Horizontal top-down cooler should easily cool the CPU and VRM
Custom fan holders could be used to place a small fan blowing directly at the VRMs
Custom fan holders could be used to place a small fan blowing directly at the VRMs

BIOS

The BIOS seems pretty robust and has a well-made interface. I was able to easily select the RAM XMP profile and enable ReBAR for Intel Arc. I did not try to update the BIOS, can't even find a listing for this specific motherboard on the Erying website ;)

Erying BIOS
Erying BIOS
Erying BIOS

Value and price comparisons

Right now in Europe i7-12700F plus a basic/good micro-ATX B660M/B760M motherboard will be in a very similar price as this mini ITX Erying motherboard. On top of that, you get a warranty and standard, more predictable parts. If you pick i5-12400F you will save quite a bit. And there is Ryzen 5800X3D looming above that as well.

However if you explicitly want a mini ITX system then the motherboard prices nearly double and Erying's offer becomes price competitive. You also get 3 M.2 SSD slots and two SATA ports on it so lots of options for a storage-oriented SFF build.

Benchmarks - 12400F, 5800X3D and 12700H

For the benchmarks I picked two of my test systems with Intel i5-12400F and Ryzen 5800X3D running 2x8 GB of 3200CL16 RAM and the latest version of Windows 11. The same RAM kit was used for the Erying board. You can treat 12400F as best value competitor while 5800X3D as top spec at a higher but still not crazy high price.

i5-12400F i7-12700H
Performance cores 6 6
Efficiency cores 0 8
Max Turbo frequency 4.4 GHz 4.7 GHz
Cache 18 MB 24 MB

Both Intel chips have 6 performance cores which would be most crucial for gaming and productivity that doesn't need that many cores. For heavily multithreaded workloads i7 should have a clear lead due to having 8 efficiency cores as well.

The systems were tested with Intel Arc A750 and Radeon RX 6950 XT graphics cards. The Erying motherboard was running the graphics cards with a PCIe 4.0 x8 connection only. For a PCIe 4.0 card, this should be fine but a high-end PCIe 3.0 card running at x8 may lose some performance.

Erying 12700H AIDA64 benchmarks
Erying 12700H AIDA64 benchmarks
Erying 12700H AIDA64 benchmarks
AIDA64 benchmark comparisons - latency
AIDA64 benchmark comparisons - memory read speeds
AIDA64 benchmark comparisons - memory write speeds

Game benchmarks

Cyberpunk 2077 2.01 benchmark
Cyberpunk 2077 2.01 benchmark

In Cyberpunk 2.0.1 (1080p ultra) benchmark the 12400F and 5800X3D had clear advantage over the i7. AMD platform had problems with the Intel Arc GPU (ReBAR reported as disabled), thus lower FPS.

Unigine Valley (1080p) is an old DX11 benchmark and for it, the FPS got reversed, even for Intel Arc which is quite a feat (if I recall correctly the Arc drivers should push DX11, and DX9 through Vulkan API).

Quite a bit of productivity and synthetic benchmarks will not scale with extra CPU cache, but more random workloads like games tend to scale noticeably up. You can check X3D Ryzen reviews for more details and results for different games.

FFXIV Endwalker benchmark
FFXIV Endwalker benchmark

Final Fantasy XIV Endwalker is a more modern DX11 game while Unigine Superposition is a DX12 synthetic benchmark. RX 6950 XT did show some scaling while the Superposition benchmark seems to be severely GPU-bound for Arc A750. FFXIV benchmark was run with Standard laptop preset at 1080p while Superposition was using 1080p medium preset.

Note that Endwalker scores are nearly identical for both GPUs which implies a strong CPU bottleneck at 1080p with relatively low settings.

3DMark Time Spy and Night Raid
3DMark Time Spy and Night Raid

DX12 Time Spy GPU scores stay somewhat consistent, with a bit less for RX 6950 XT on the Erying motherboard running at x8 PCIe bandwidth. Night Raid benchmark is a bit unusual as it can be affected by latency or throughput heavily and paradoxically the i7 gets the best scores, even when using an x8 PCIe connection.

CPU benchmarks

CPU benchmark scores

In CPU benchmarks we see that multi-core tests favor 6+8 i7 and 8 core Ryzen over 6-core i5. Once again Night Raid score is highest for the mobile i7 CPU.

Cinebench R23 scores for i7-12700H are bit mixed. Presented results were achieved with A750 present in the system. Without it and less heat buildup, the multi-core score went from 14453 to 16766 which could be related to VRM or less likely CPU throttling.

Integrated graphics benchmarks

The advantage of using Intel mobile chips is full Intel Xe iGPU. It hasn't been updated since the 11th gen but is still capable of an iGPU. For those benchmarks I used HP 15-dw3000ni with Tiger Lake i7-1165G7 (17,2W) with 16GB of dual-channel DDR4 3200CL22 RAM and GPD Win Max 2 with Ryzen 7840U running 32GB of 7500MT/s LPDDR5x.

iGPU benchmarks
iGPU benchmarks - Night Raid

12700H with more power and a bit better RAM timings did not manage to outscore Tiger Lake 1165G7. Intel specs for DDR4 list 3200MT/s as the highest supported so I'm not sure if the Erying motherboard can be pushed more, but you never know. The Radeon 780M integrated graphics is bigger than Vega 8/Intel Xe from previous generations and when paired with fast LPDDR5x RAM it achieves much better results.

In terms of games Intel Xe graphics are enough for light games, and can even handle FFXIV at 1080p or World of Warcraft (retail and classic).

Gamers Nexus review
Level1Techs review

Conclusions

Erying mini ITX motherboards seems to be quite capable. The company offers mATX versions as well, but for those, I'm not sure if it's really worth it over something more standard. The performance for gaming seems to be similar to a similar 6-performance-core 12400F while multi-threaded productivity should scale more with the i7 (mobile and desktop).

If you decide on a mini-ITX build you will have to look at the VRM thermals and possible other limitations of such a custom product but overall it seems good. If you want something cheaper, then Erying still offers 11th-generation mobile processors as well, just note those older mATX versions were reported to have VRM throttling issues.

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